Hot Wheels Posts

The De Tomaso Pantera is Rare in Any Scale

Over the past two years, we’ve contributed articles to Die CastX magazine for publication on their website and in their quarterly print edition. We hope you enjoy the story of a couple of De Tomaso Pantera diecast models.

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This Hot Wheels Pantera had moderate detailing for a reasonably low price.

Ron Ruelle hobbyDB

Ron Ruelle hobbyDB

Chances are you’ve never seen a DeTomaso Pantera on the road, at least not in the last couple of decades. Italian designed and Ford powered, these brutes were an interesting alternative to the Ford GT40 and other road going supercars. (In fact, we wrote about a miniature GT40 last week). Although they are fairly rare in production, a surprising number of Panteras come up for sale in all conditions and featuring many different configurations.

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The most expensive and attractive Panteras are the slim-bumpered early models, which sort of look like a less cluttered Lamroghini Countach (for a lot less money). Later versions have large rubber bumpers that work better than most car designs that got caught in the transition to modern safety features. The more elaborate models have huge rear wings and flared fenders, a little less pure in design but still marvelous to look at.

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They’ve been pretty rare in smaller sizes too, at least compared to other exotics. Probably the 1/18 scale model of the Pantera came from Hot Wheels as they expanded their offerings into larger scales in the late 1990s. The car was available with interesting options… you could buy it as a kit in red, or pre-assembled in blue or yellow. The red variant, especially unbuilt, can fetch upwards of $100 these days. This kind of model car is always gets our attention at hobbyDB.com, as the variants of the models extend beyond just the obvious color. By releasing it as a kit, Hot Wheels made an attempt to reach not just collectors, but hobbyists who like to create their own models.

Kyosho Pantera

Kyosho’s Pantera features more detail including separate marker lamps and such.

The lines and proportions on the Hot Wheels GTS model are good, although since it was not a high end model, it lacked super details like engine wiring and other working features that would not appear until Kyosho and others released their much more expensive models a few years ago. Kyosho is known for their high-end, high-priced work on exotic cars, especially on Japanese marques. Many of them are in the $100 range, but worth it for the exquisite detail. The air struts for holding up the engine cover are a nice touch, as are the pop-up headlights.

Kyosho Pantera

By the way, if you do happen to locate your red Hot Wheels kit and want to sell it, post it on our site! We know someone who needs it!

Secrets of Hot Wheels Models with Bob Rosas & Larry Wood

Bob Rosas and Larry Wood

Have you always wondered the what the inspiration behind some of the most famous Hot Wheels designs? Discover more about your favorite diecast models in the second segment in our five part Hot Wheels Fireside Chat featuring Bob Rosas and Larry Wood.

If this is your first time checking out this Fireside Chat series, a little background. At the beginning of October, the hobbyDB team journeyed to Los Angeles, California to attend the annual Hot Wheels Collectors Convention. While at the convention, we got the privilege to interview two of Hot Wheels’ greatest designers, Larry Wood and Bob Rosas. Over the next few weeks, we’ll be sharing parts of the live video interview as well as a blog post that includes the transcript. The videos are separated into five different segments:

  1. History 
  2. Individual Hot Wheels Cars (this one)
  3. Hot Wheels – The Series
  4. Cars in 1:1 Scale
  5. Today

As a reminder, a bit of background –

Rosas designed Hot Wheels cars from 1969 to 1988. He worked on developing many series including Mean Machines Motorcycles,  Steering Rigs, Ultra Hots, and Real Riders. One of his big contributions to the diecast hobby was working on improving the tampo process in the 1970s. The intricately designed graphics you see on model cars today wouldn’t be possible without his efforts.

Wood also joined Hot Wheels in 1970, and is still with the company as a consultant. His first design was the Tri-Baby in 1970. He also created the ’49 Merc, the Boyd Coddington collector set, the Ramblin’ Wrecker (which originally featured his phone number on its sides) as well as several school bus designs.

Rosas and Wood are both members of the Diecast Hall of Fame.

Please enjoy the second segment, Individual Hot Wheels Cars.

Transcript of Fireside Chat Part 2:

Christian: And now I have a lot of questions about individual cars. So, the first one comes from Sergio Goldvarg. Sergio runs a restaurant that has 10,000 cars in it, in Florida, worthwhile seeing, he’s also a guinness book record holder of the largest toy car collection. And he particularly collects Batmobiles, he has everything from 1:1 scale to 1:240 scale. He wants to know of all the many castings you guys did, which one did you have the most fun designing and which one did you like most at the end.

Bob: For me, I’ll never forget the Steering Rigs, the GMC Motorhome, you know some of the earlier cars from the early 70s, I mean the middle 70s actually, but the GMC Motorhome is quite a story. If you make it to scale, it wouldn’t fit in the packaging, you know with the 1:64. So it’s a little out of scale, plus I took 10 linear feet out of the middle, so that would make it down to three inches. I got the plans from GMC Corporation, they sent me the blueprints, and we were able to make a more accurate rendering. Because you know, it’s just a loaf of bread, there’s not that much to it, but I think Larry did a great job on the detailing and the tampo graphics.

Larry: One thing you have to remember, with Hot Wheels, the scale was the size of the package. So Volkswagen could be the same size as a cement truck. So when it came to this, we couldn’t do a little tiny thing that was real long, so we had to squash it and pull it up, so that was kind of fun.

For me, you know I got so many of them I love them all. But when the Bone Shaker, because of the guys that like the Bone Shaker, You know I learned to, the thing was just a sketch, and I think I threw it away once, and then I pulled it out of the trash, and then I looked at it again and thought, oh this might be kind of fun. So I took it from just a dumb idea into a dumb toy, and all of a sudden everybody liked it. So I’m sticking with the Bone Shaker.

Christian: And now you can drive it, they build one in 1:1 Scale, right?  

Larry: That’s it. But I’ll tell you the truth, I can’t fit into it. So they wanted to do a video.

Christian: Is that why they cut off the roof at the end?

Larry: Yeah, the problem was, the steering wheel was here, and the door was here and your break wouldn’t work. Which is ok, you don’t care about the brakes. But they wanted to make a video with it. And I said I’ll drive it but you got to put me in a place where I don’t need the brakes. So I went out on an airstrip, I went and did donuts and everything, but had to downshift it and tried to get my foot over to the brake to finally stop it. Yeah, it’s tight in that car.

Christian: Excellent, so this is a question from Chicago. Lou227 wants to know on the redline Rolls Royce and Mercedes 280SL, the hoods open the wrong way (they are hinged at the windshields) but the Custom Corvette and Maserati Mistral have their hoods hinged correctly. Was it a mistake or was it intentional?

Larry: We can answer this real easy. We weren’t there. That was Harry Bradley and I don’t know who the engineer was at the time, but yeah that was before us. That was the first year.

Christian: True, sorry Lou.

Larry: I would tend to think, because staking, you couldn’t get to the little thin cowl, it would probably warp like crazy.

Bob: Yes the big piece, rigidity in the middle.  Maybe they had to stake it.

Christian: So the next question comes from HW Collector, he’s in San Diego: Whose idea was the Hot Seat? And why?! Did anyone complain about Hot Wheels making a toilet on wheels?

Larry: Luckily I had nothing to do with that. We weren’t there. I can’t remember who did it. Have you seen the latest, was it Mark Jones? Have you seen the newest one, the toilet seat moves as it goes down the track. Like the shark, got a new one. That must have been Jones. That seems like a Jones.

Christian: Alright, fair enough. Next question comes from Jason Duncan. This is for Larry. Since you designed the ’65 Mustang Convertible, and several other Mustangs, what Mustang casting is your favorite one to design, and why?

Larry: Well I worked in Detroit and I was there at 65 so I was working on the the 67, 68 on those Mustangs. I always drew hot rods with big hood scoops on them, and finally my boss came to me one day and said, you know cars don’t have that, this was the performance era luckily, cars don’t have that, we could never do that. So I showed him how it could be done, you just drain the water out here, you scoop it, you seal it, and it shakes, so it became the shaker hood scoop. So I gotta go with the 69 Mustang, the trouble is we never did one with the shaker hood scoop, but that’s the car that should have the shaker hood scoop on it.

Christian: Maybe there’s hope.

Larry: I was going to say, maybe that will be my next car.

Christian: The next question comes from London from Mighty Maverick, and he says I am a fan of the 1970 range (those were the first he got) and always wanted to know what were the stories behind the Tri Baby, the Mantis, the Peeping Bomb and the Whip Creamer – what’s the inspiration behind these?  

Larry: Well, we were doing crazy dream cars then, so I suppose there wasn’t really a reason for each car. All I can really tell you is Tri Baby is an easy one for me, because I came out of Detroit doing door handles, tail lights and grills and everything and the first day at Mattel I sat down, and they said, do a car. And I said, I get to do a whole car? What are you going to do, you’re going to do a sports car right? And then so, I’d worked in aircraft, so that’s where I got where I got the turbine engine idea in the back. That’s how the Tri Baby came about, it’s my first real sports car that I got to design.

Christian: And who came up with the names?

Larry: We had a guy named Sid, and that was his job. Kind of a strange guy, and he came up with some strange names, so it fit them.

Christian: Were they always accepted? Or you had a negotiation with him?

Larry: I don’t think we had an input then. Later on we finally did have the input.

Bob: The two things that we did put in got through. They had a legal guy.

Larry: Up until halfway through, they controlled the names, you can finally tell when they started naming the cars the right way is when we put our two cents in. We did all that work to do a really neat car, and then they had all these crazy names.

Christian: Any ones that you hated or loved?

Larry: The Bubble Gunner. It was supposed to be a bubble gum machine. That was the name, but it was not my favorite.

Christian: The next question comes from Jean-Philippe Coté, he’s from NY and writes – I always wanted to know why sometimes a model is based on a real car, but the name of the model isn’t. For example, Hot Wheels produced a Ferrari 308 but it was named Race Bait 308.  Do you only acquire the rights to the casting but not the name of the car?

Bob: They not very often used the real names. Usually it was something gimmicky.

Larry: We’re going to blame Sid.

Bob: Yeah it had to be something.

Christian: So what happened, Sid left and then you guys were suddenly in charge.

Larry: Yeah we got in charge, to do the right names.

Christian: Sounds like cost cutting. The guy only did names?

Larry: Yeah, well legal, I should say. And, I’ll give you a story to show you where things went. We never had a problem with legal. We could do any car, we could do any graphics, we could do anything we want. I designed and worked on the car for ZZ Top, the Eliminator, the little red coupe, with the two Zs down the side of it. I won’t credit for putting the Zs on the side, but I designed the car. So Billy Gibbons, I met him because we were designing cars and everything, so I thought I’ll do Billy Gibbons’ car, he’d like that right? So I did the 34 Ford with the two Zs on the side. Well they got a lawyer and that lawyer really protected their brand, and that was the first time that we got in trouble for doing a legal thing that wasn’t legal. We had to pay him a bunch of money to keep the status ok with the company. And that was the first time. And from that point it just went crazy and you could imagine the legal hassles of doing a NASCAR, every tampo, every logo, every stitch, little tiny thing on those cars, because we are trying to do them accurate, had to be legal, had to be cleared. So legal went from not caring whatever car we went to, to every little dot on that car.

Christian: And when was that?

Larry: It progressed. But ZZ Top car was really the beginning of that.

Christian: And what year was that?

Larry: These guys would probably know the ZZ Top car better than I do. So late 70s. And then like I say, it just got bigger and bigger in fact, one of the biggest departments right now is the legal department. You have to clear the car, clear every tampo they put on the side, every name they put on it and everything, completely different.

Bob: I believe it was the 3-Window ’34.

Larry: Yep

Bob: You know there was another car that they went right down to using a dremel tool to taking name off the bottom and that was the NASCAR Stocker. I think they called it Mountain Dew Stocker, and then they said we can’t do that. So before we shipped them, they had to grind the name off. And then we called it the Racing Stocker.

Christian: Is that Sid again?

Larry: No this was us, by the time. But again this was a legal thing.

Bob: Then we couldn’t use NASCAR then by the end it was Racing Stocker.

Larry: Which everybody loves because they are hard to find, that’s half the fun!

Christian: True, true, the next question comes from Tom Kurtz, he’s from ParisI understand both of you worked on the Lickety Six which seems clearly based on the Tyrrell P34, was it changed as it was just a toy or was it difficult/expensive to get a license to model the actual car?

Larry: I think at that case, we probably didn’t want to go through all the licensing problems. We just did it on our own. I’m a little surprised we didn’t get called on that, because it’s pretty easy to figure out what car that is. I think we just sell the car on magazines, and it had six front wheels, and we said hey that’s unnatural, we should do something like that. So I think it’s just one of those things, we just did and hoped no one would call us on it.

Audience Member: I don’t think Tyrrell would have cared.

Larry: That’s just it, some people were glad that we did some, other people would just jump all over us.

Bob: There was not a lot of versions at the time. I think it’s 7 variations of it now. India, Mexico, and France.

Christian: As an engineer was this good on the track?

Bob: As good as any.

Larry: it had plenty of wheels to rub on the sides, so it actually was pretty good compared to rubbing diecast on the sides.

Christian: So the next question comes from Jonathan Johnson and he wants to know who came up with the Sizzlers concept and how did you choose a casting for the first prototype models.

Bob: What came from the Preliminary Design (Ed. an internal team call Preliminary Design or Prelim) was the major influence in engineering from George Solacus and my only involvement was towards the tail end, when they were trying the chrome version and this will have lights on it, just a little different. That was the last of them for a while then they came back again, of course, a few years ago.

Larry: I can remember when Prelim turned that thing over, it had a huge battery in it, because there was no battery that small at the time. So it had a big battery, wires and everything, and it just went around the track. And they said here it is. And I said, I can’t do a body around that thing it’s got this huge battery in it. So they went to a battery manufacturer and worked to get the battery down to the right size and I personally think that would be a great thing to come back. With technology now those batteries would probably run for a week!

Christian: Sure but this has a small battery.

Larry: And put that into a Hot Wheels, in a Sizzler, they’d go crazy you could probably even charge it on the run. So I’m actually going to propose it to Mattel.

Audience: There’s a new line of Sizzlers coming out this year, ten second charges. They are kind of like the XV Racers.

Christian: This question is from Pittsburgh it’s someone call 80’s Kid. In the 1980’s blackwall era, Hot Wheels made some for the brand unusual choices of cars like the Pontiac J2000, Omni 024, Cadillac Seville, Ford Escort, Renault LeCar, Peugeot 505 and also the Dodge Aries Wagon and Chevy Citation. These were done in realistic paint colors, without wild graphics. They’re cool models but they’re much more “ordinary” new and very different than what you had done in the past. What happened and why?

Larry: This is an easy one. We should explain that when we pick cars, some years we get to pick cars. Other years marketing gets to pick cars, it matters who has control that year. Most of these, starting with the Poison Pinto, there was a gas crisis. They came and said we were going to do gas crisis cars. And I said, these are Hot Wheels, they are going down a track, they are going fast. So they wanted a Pinto Winebago, well you know what I did with the Pinto Winebago (Ed. the Poison Pinto), but later on they said, well, we need regular cars. And that kind of extended from that point of having because of the gas crisis and continued, what we did regular dog cars for quite a while, and finally design got control back and did the stuff we wanted.

Christian: And how did that work, I mean what was the fight?

Larry: You can imagine, you pick a car, you fill a wall full of drawings and photographs end everything, and if you go in there right now it’s the same thing, there is a big wall with cars, for you know sports cars, hot rods, and you know, everybody’s idea goes up on the wall and you start coming back and picking things. Well if there’s a marketing guy between you that says no, we’re not doing that hot rod with a big engine, we’re doing the Peugeot or something. I think at that time we were trying to get into Europe as well.

Bob: We were required to do actual European cars back then.

Christian: I’m European, there are some better choices than the Peugeot 505…

Larry: But not what we were told. We were told that was the car that you should do.

Bob: But I agree, you know I used to walk into the store, and I would see the Aries K wagon, or the pegs were full with the Aries Wagon and the Packin’ Pacer, and they were the only ones that didn’t sell. For a while there, they are probably still in the back.

Christian: The next question comes from a user that calls herself, Rubber Ducky Chick and she wants to know from you Larry, when you used to put your phone numbers on the Ramblin’ Wrecker, how many phone calls you would get, and also what people would ask you?

Larry: Well the story is, I put my phone number on the Larry’s towing. I put it on there because I figured it would be kind of a good business card, right? Meet people and hand the Hot Wheels to them and you say give me a call if you want to do business together or something. Seemed like a good idea at the time. Well the first phone call came about 6:00am in the morning on Christmas Eve some kid that was calling for Larry’s towing “I just got this under the tree and I’m calling” and I say “are your parents up” “No, I’m playing with my Hot Wheels” and I said “Well put it back down, go back to bed” and you know and the phone rang a few more times, off and on for a little while. But that wasn’t the problem. The problem was, I didn’t have an area code on it, so every area code in the United States started getting that phone call. So we got a call from a minister in Chicago, and for some reason, Chicago kids love that number and he said “I’m getting phone calls like crazy.” So as you can imagine, we were told to take it off.

Bob: I have something to add to that. The shield on the door, is also a Big Jim thing, we used that on the fire truck and fire eater, and this one here. A classic carryover, Big Jim.

Larry: I gotta to tell you a future story after that as a friend of mine who worked for Barbie, and he tried to sneak his phone number on Barbie’s bed. He got caught, he thought hey, you know.

Christian: Do you remember any of the calls? (to Larry’s wife)

Larry: Oh yeah, she was the one who usually got the calls.

Larry’s wife: One time a husband called, he was checking his phone bill and saw all these phone calls, and was suspicious of his wife was cheating on him. And she hadn’t done anything wrong.

Larry: He was checking up on his phone bill and somebody was calling me all the time, and so he thought his wife had a thing going. And it was the kid calling. I wasn’t in on that one.

Christian: The next question comes from Florida and he/she calls himself Lananeeneenoonoo and he wants to know Torero and Turbofire were the first original designs in the range. How did Hot Wheels decide to include original designs in the range? Was it always planned? How did this approach work out?

Larry: Again before us, I would tend to think that when they first started they did the custom stuff, took a regular car, and put a big engine in it, and everything, you know they are designers. They wanted to do something a little wilder. It was probably Ira who started doing the wild shapes because he did the twin mill and all those neat looking cars. He had a whole series of cool looking cars, and even the work horses, it was probably Ira.

Christian: The next one is one of yours. It comes from Ireland, user is call DeLorean fan Is it true that Hot Wheels was going to make a DeLorean back in the 80’s, but then had to modify the casting and released it as the Turismo? If so, what happened?

Larry: Ok the original DeLorean was a mid engine car and they had built a mock-up of it, and they were testing it and everything else, so we copied that car, so the wheelbase was a little longer, the shape is a little nicer, it was a nice car. The trouble is, by the time that we tooled it, they had gone to the rear engine car and the wheelbase had moved and the car had changed shape. So DeLorean said “no you can’t do that car, you have to do the new car.” And weren’t about to do two DeLoreans so we modified it to the ugly grill, and added a few other pieces to it, to make it error.

Bob: After it was built, the EDM details had changed, but I have a few real ones.

Christian: We’ll need some images for those later. Excellent, so I guess you waited until the company went bust and then made it?

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Larry send us these photos after the event

Bob: Years later.

Larry: By now it’s worth doing. Back then, it was a car that we were pretty sure that it wasn’t going to be a big deal and it wasn’t worth doing two tools on it. Now it’s worth it.

Christian: The next question comes from Ohio, from Andy Cell and he asked,  can you talk about a few cars that you were going to make and did not or about Hot Wheels concepts that could not be done and why and what happened?

Larry: I know one car we didn’t make but we made a brass and we made a prototype and a toy show model. It was a Mercury Cyclone and I think it was the first year I was there. So it never went any further than that. In fact I’ve seen about, I personally know of about, 8 or 10 prototypes that never got beyond the handmade stage. And you know some of them were pretty cool and the Mercury, I don’t have the slightest idea, it’s a beautiful looking car. I don’t know why it never went any further, but maybe a legal problem.

Bob: I’ll tell you another one was a motorcycle, a prototype that was way different scale, even bigger than the Street Eater and the first motorcycle we did (Ed. the MotoCross), the one with a yellow seat, one with a red seat, but about a little bigger than that.

Larry: Yeah it was a good size. It would fit in the package.

Bob: Of course, they built the tools for them and carried it all the way to finish. I ordered some parts to put some together, just cause you know marketing might change their mind, and they needed to have some samples, so they sent them, printed, and finished up. That’s another one I can recall.

Christian: As the ones you remember, I know Bruce Pascal has a few of these early. Which one do you think was the coolest that should have been done?

Larry: Again I could mention a couple, but you’ve never seen them. They just disappeared. There was one where the wings came out, it was really cool, but it never was made. Trying to think of some other ones that we did, but again, sometimes we would go to the handmade model and you would look at it, and someone would say, we’re not going to do it.

Audience Member: More recent than those, was the Beatnik Bandit 2. I saw a resin about the time of the Silhouette II.

Larry: Ok, that would make sense.

Christian: The next question is from David Durovy. Was there ever a design or casting that you “fought” over?  Meaning… one you both wanted to design, one you debated on the HW “interpretation of,” stuff where you weren’t seeing eye to eye?

Larry: You do it.

Bob: No you do it.

Larry: We worked fine together. No, we had a great time. The two of us, like I said back in the corner having a good time playing with cars. So you couldn’t beat it. We had a little track where we could play with, you know try the cars out. Things like that. So it was no problem.

Bob: They only made six new ones a year, and we capped them at six, so there wasn’t a lot of cars, and it did take a long time to get the car to production, plus we had to go through all the preliminary sample sheet. Yes we made the first year, we had someone hand carve it, for many years.

Larry: Yeah you had to do a hand carving. You had to do a prototype for the toy shows all decorated up and most of those had the windows painted because they were solid.

Christian: So I hear all the time about this corner. How big was this corner? And what did you do, did you race cars?

Larry: Like I said we were just over in the corner with the partitions you know, the partitions were about here, you could stand up and yell at each other and everything like that. And I remember the rest of it was all Barbie. That’s not true, there was Big Jim and HeMan and all that of course every once and a while they would go hit, you know like all the sudden HeMan was a big department. Also in the very very beginning when we first got there, there was a department that was called Freelin, which was the idea place, where Sizzlers came out. My job was to make the car look good, his job was to make it, and make it go down a track and everything, so by the time it got to us, it was pretty much filtered down, but Freelin did crazy things. You would go in there and things would be flying around tracks and everything, but that was their job. Their job was not to make it, their job was to come up with the ideas, and what’s fun is to find the prototypes that they came up with. They look ugly as sin, but they do things, like Bob’s got plenty of those, you know do the wheelie, they weren’t went to look pretty, they were just meant to work, so that was kind of fun.  

– End of Part 2 –

Get a Diecast Dodge Charger (Minus the Yeeeeha Package)

Over the past two years, we’ve contributed articles to Die CastX magazine for publication on their website and in their quarterly print edition. We hope you enjoy reading about the back story of a couple of older Dodge Charger diecast models.

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Ron Ruelle hobbyDB

Ron Ruelle hobbyDB

It’s probably safe to guess that the vast majority of 1:18 scale Diecast Dodge Charger models are painted orange and have a big “01” on the doors (and maybe a rooftop Stars and Bars flag depending on your politics). But for those who prefer their Chargers a bit more stock, there have also been a few options.

Hot Wheels and Auto World have both offered their own versions of the Charger over the years. Overall, the Hot Wheels car has much simpler detail than the Auto World model, which makes sense… at around $25 and $85 respectively, you should expect a difference.

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Auto World’s car actually started with a General Lee version. The latest one represents star car from the 1974 movie “Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry.” The model comes in a subtle near-fluorescent lime green and represents the car as seen early in the movie. In other words, clean and (spoiler alert) sans damage. The car doesn’t appear on the poster for the movie, but actress Susan George is shown enjoying a popsicle of the same color.

Hot Wheels went a different route when they made a similar model in the late 1990s. This one is not based on any particular famous car. In fact, this car immediately disqualifies itself from being converted to the General Lee. How, you ask?

The roof of each car is executed differently, and Hot Wheels actually does it better. Their version includes a faux vinyl roof, molded in a subtle texture compete with seams. And the chrome trim at the bottom of the sail panels is molded as well. You would have to do a lot of sanding to smooth out all that detail if you wanted a plain roof. Auto World apparently did not want to make the vinyl mandatory, so they left the roof smooth, to be painted if necessary for future models. The chrome at the bottom of the roof is also flat and just a silver tampo. For a car with window and fender trim molded as delicate separate pieces, this is kind of disappointing.

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On the other hand, the Auto World car has incredible underhood detail. Everything is painted the correct colors, of course, and the engine is plumbed and wired to the point where it looks like it should actually start up. The best detail, though is the hood hinges, which replicate the complicated spring-loaded hinges on the real car. Speaking of the hood, if you look at the car from behind, you will see that the hood vents are not only painted black, but also contain the turn signal repeaters.

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Under the trunk lid, Auto World features the trunk mat with houndstooth pattern and fuel filler pipe that severely intrudes on luggage space, details you seldom see on models at any price.

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The Hot Wheels version is expectedly basic under the hood, including the sturdy but not very realistic hood hinges we’ve come to expect on most model cars.

The corner turn signal lights are another area of difference. They’re molded into the body on the Hot Wheels car and painted, but are just flat tampos on the Auto World. The latter approach was likely  taken to make it easier to create 1968 or 1970 versions of this car, which differed in these areas. To make up for it, Auto World included a really neat feature: the covered headlights flip into position with a little help from some sharp fingernails and a little patience.

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The average collector probably doesn’t spend a lot of time looking at the bottom of a model car, but underneath, Auto World did some amazing things. First, they included working suspension, including flexible leaf springs in the rear. Second, when the car rolls, the driveshaft spins. Finally, what appears to be a sloppy paint job to the uninitiated is actually a faithful replication of the overspray of body color paint found on the real car.

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Hot Wheels has moved away from large scale models for the most part, but there’s always a chance Auto World might eventually produce a version in your favorite color eventually if they haven’t already. Yeeeeha!

Fireside Chat with Bob Rosas & Larry Wood – Part 1 on Hot Wheels history

At the beginning of October, the hobbyDB team journeyed to Los Angeles, California to attend the annual Hot Wheels Collectors Convention. It’s five days jam-packed with awesome cars, people, and events. We also were excited to host some of the informational sessions during the convention including a Fireside Chat with Hot Wheels designers Larry Wood and Bob Rosas. During the session, both designers spent more than an hour answering questions from Hot Wheels fans around the world. We loved getting to know more about them and their Hot Wheels adventures and we hope you will to. Over the next few weeks, we’ll be sharing parts of the live video interview as well as a blog post that includes the transcript. The videos are separated into five different segments:

  1. History
  2. Individual Hot Wheels Cars
  3. Hot Wheels – The Series
  4. Cars in 1:1 Scale
  5. Today

Before we get started, a bit of background –

Rosas designed Hot Wheels cars from 1969 to 1988. He worked on developing many series including Mean Machines Motorcycles,  Steering Rigs, Ultra Hots, and Real Riders. One of his big contributions to the diecast hobby was working on improving the tampo process in the 1970s. The intricately designed graphics you see on model cars today wouldn’t be possible without his efforts.

Wood also joined Hot Wheels in 1970, and is still with the company as a consultant. His first design was the Tri-Baby in 1970. He also created the ’49 Merc, the Boyd Coddington collector set, the Ramblin’ Wrecker (which originally featured his phone number on its sides) as well as several school bus designs.

Rosas and Wood are both members of the Diecast Hall of Fame.

Please enjoy the first segment, History.

Transcript for Part 1

Christian: So we wanted to use the opportunity today to have two of Hot Wheels hottest Engineers sitting here. And what we did is we went out and put questions on about 25 forums and blogs and said hey, if you have a question that you’ve always wanted to ask, give it to us and then we’ll pass it on today. So I got 24 questions here which we will go through and if there is also time, then we will open it up to the room and with further ado, the first question comes from Cyprus from someone called Zuell – “He wants to know from you Bob. I’d love to know if any of the work you did on Barbie and Big Jim found its way into Hot Wheels”.

Larry: You worked on Barbie?

Bob: Yeah

Larry: Oh I didn’t know that!

Bob: Well we did a Barbie Hot Wheels, in fact we tried to propose it a couple of times, but it got shot down. Big Jim, yeah, we used the on the Fire Eater, we used the logo from Big Jim on the door. And there may have been another place. Look at the fire eater and you’ll see a Big Jim logo right on the door.

Larry: what you have to understand though, we were over in the corner, and Barbie was everything else. Hot WHeels was just a couple of guys over in the corner drawing cars, we didn’t even pay Barbie’s taxes, Barbie owned the place. SO if you got to work on Barbie, you were successful, if you were a Hot Wheels guy, it was two guys over in the corner and no one ever paid attention to us.

Christian: Did you ever try to get over to the other side.

Larry: No no, I never wore pink. Bob looked good in pink. Actually I had to do a pink shirt and I did actually do Barbie’s corvette. So that’s the only thing they had me do.

Christian: But you did do a lot of pink cars.

Larry: Oh we did a lot of pink cars, but they weren’t barbie cars. In fact, that’s why they wouldn’t sell very much because people didn’t want girlie cars.

Bob: They also did a Barbie GNC motorhome.

Larry: That’s right

Bob: And that was based on our little car.

Christian: The next question is from Andy Goodman who works at M2 and he wanted to know from you Larry – “One thing I’ve always wanted to know, why is Larry retiring when he did. Why then, he was at the top of his game, had control of the department, could have stayed full time, as long as he wanted, doing what he loved. Is there a reason why he retired when he did.

Larry: Well basically, I was already getting out anyway. I was only working three days a week which was pretty nice, and I was working on my cars in my shop on the other couple of days. And the department, the main reason was, that the whole area was going digital. And I just like the feel of pencil on paper. And when you do that, I did one car, the Passin’ Gasser, the only car I ever did a b-sheet on with a computer. And it was kind of neat because you could pull the wheel up this big, and put your logo on it and then shrink it back down, remember they compared it to trying to draw. But it just didn’t have a feel. And like I say, they used to say when they were talking PR, they used to say well, we’re almost all digital. And I’d think, yeah, that’s because of me. So when I left, they said, ok we’re all digital, it’s all yours. So basically that was it, it was just, and you stop thinking, the collector had hit it’s peak, the 18 scale was dropping off, the 24 scale was dropping off, everybody already had those cars, so as far as I was concerned it was perfect timing. I didn’t see any future in the collector end anymore, and like I said, the digital thing, it just was perfect timing.

Christian: Next question is back to you Bob. “After your great work at Mattel” This is DK47 from Ohio, “He wanted to know, do you stay in the model car business, or did you move to another industry and what did you do?

Bob: Yes I went to another industry, I designed appliances for a first Wolf range company. I don’t know if you’ve seen their ads, if you’ve seen them on commercials and stuff on tv. They’ve got big red knobs. And what I did for them was develop anywhere from 30 inches up to 6 feet double ovens, french tops, griddles, char broilers, got to know all that stuff, and became a certified gas engineer and designer.

Larry: My son and I actually had one of those stoves that we used to cook on. A big old wolf range with big red knobs. A beautiful piece.

Christian: Do the buttons still have flames on them?

Larry: They had flames as soon as you turned it, I’ll tell you that. Wolf!

– End of Part 1 –

Redlines to Treasure Hunts: A Labor of Love

hobbyDB Team: We are VERY excited about Dan Hornberger’s documentary film project “Redlines to Treasure Hunts” and are pleased to welcome him to our blog with his latest update. “Redlines to Treasure Hunts” is a full-length documentary on the history and collecting world of Hot Wheels. Dan currently has a GoFundMe to get completion costs for the film and is hoping to have it finished by early 2018.

Dan HornbergerA Guest Blog Post by Dan Hornberger

I’d like to thank the folks at hobbyDB for giving me the opportunity to provide an update on the film.

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First…a little background on the film: After producing the documentary STANDARDIZED, an exposé on the standardized testing industry that plagues public education, I began looking for other documentary projects, especially those with a lighter tone. I initially thought about a project involving toys from the 60s and 70s (i.e., Major Matt Mason, Vertibird, AirDevils, Creepy Crawlers) so I attended a local toy fair/flea market. After seeing dozens of tables of Hot Wheels and spotting cars I had when I was a kid, I knew I had my next project. I observed the vendors’ and collectors’ passion; I saw how excited the kids were as they scanned the wide array of cars.

I started researching and discovered an entire subculture of people who love these toy cars. I also quickly found out that Hot Wheels is not your ordinary fad (such as Beanie Babies, Longaberger Baskets, or Cabbage Patch Kids). These toys have been going strong for almost fifty years. I knew that the origin of these toy cars, the different phases of their development, and the dedicated collectors would make a compelling documentary.

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I wrapped up the interviews a month ago (however, I’ve recently learned of another exciting potential interview, but I don’t want to reveal any more just yet). Sure, we interviewed the giants of the collecting world: Mike Zarnock, Bruce Pascal, Larry Wood, all of whom were friendly, accommodating, and supportive. I’ve been feverishly transcribing all of the interviews. Let me tell you, writing a blog entry beats the tedious transcription process. I’m nearing the end of that stage, but it has been a slow, painstaking phase; however, it’s highly necessary if I want a much smoother editing stage.

I often think about all of the great people we’ve met along the way. We:

Spent time with the SJPD and Charm City Collectors’ Clubs (thank you to all of the members!)

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A Charm City Collectors’ Club (MD) sale

Interviewed dozens of collectors such as Kirk Engle, Roy Friend, Dan Hocker, and Ed Bregitzer

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Kirk Engle amidst his collection

Gained invaluable information from interviews we hadn’t initially planned such as Mark and Jennifer Millhollin, Wayne Heede, Danny Tharp, Mark Starr and Bill Cookerly…thank you VERY much!

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Mark & Jennifer Millhollin, Collectors’ Convention Organizers (and VERY nice people!)

Experienced four days of crazy fun at the National Convention in Indianapolis; we came away from that event with eight hours of footage and the experience of meeting dozens and dozens of very nice people (including hobbyDB’s own Christian Braun and Robert Graves)

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Traveled to SoCal and paid a visit to Mattel, who arranged for us to interview Jimmy Liu, Steve Vandervate, and Brendan Vetuskey

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Jimmy Liu, Associate Marketing Manager at Mattel

And we accomplished so much more. I feel compelled to say that this project has allowed me to:

  • work closely with my son, who will graduate this May with a BFA in Filmmaking from Montclair State
  • have my daughter help me on two shoots
  • work with several close friends: Jim Del Conte, whose work is always top-notch; Glenn Cocco and Peter Fey, my two Temple University SCAT brothers. My friendship with these two guys has lasted 25 years, and having the chance to work with them has made this great experience even greater. By the way, Pete composed and performed all of the awesome music in the film trailers.
  • rekindle my love for this great hobby

So what’s next? Well, I’ll finish the transcriptions by next week, and I’ll immediately dive into cutting the film. The toughest part of editing will be narrowing hours and hours of footage into a 90-minute doc. My rather optimistic goal is to have a rough cut completed by late November. In the meantime, I’m hoping Pete can continue cranking out cool tunes, and I’ll spend more time trying to raise money for the budget. Of course, we want the film shown on the major streaming venues so the Hot Wheels’ community can watch it. But before that can happen, we need to enter a few film festivals and, hopefully, deal with numerous distribution offers. Our official fundraising page is www.gofundme.redlines.

I’ll continue to post updates on the official site: www.redlinestotreasurehunts.com, and the film’s FB page. By the way, I’m entertaining another title: The Hottest Wheels. Let me know what you think in the comments below.

With more hard work, more money in the budget, and a little bit of luck, this film will be completed just before the 50th Anniversary. How cool would that be?

Well, so much for a break. It’s time to get back to transcribing. No rest for the weary.
Take care!
Dan Hornberger